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mustapo Same here. I wold like to see more documentation about the process how carbon credits is bridget to on chain, how and who has verified these projects and less about how to buy MCO2 token and about their market places. Website actually brings more concerns on my mind than answers.

    For: Introduce KLIMA-MCO2 and MCO2 bonds

    lancecord I wouldn’t worry too much about this as BCT already consists of units that are avoided emissions. A deep dive has been done already: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1rlInksw4PDilkOdJmxVqRDwDsbMqx3_Q?usp=sharing

    Are REDD+ or REDD the highest grade offsets? No, but they still are okay for the most part. The goal is to act like a black hole and ensure that other polluters can’t access them.

      greevesie Could that actually be one of the approvals? At least guiding one... Once so called polluter( and regulators) accepts one of offsets that's when Klima will approve them to to be a part of treasure 🤔

      Cooperation is important at on-chain carbon market. Cause we have a same goal . So , i vote yes on it .

      In favour of this for sure, 2022 here we come!

      Sirob As I am not an expert on what is going on, I would, as I don't have any better option, defer my yes/no to Sirob. He is clearly on the right path and seems to be asking the right questions.


      I do not think it is good enough for random people to simply agree or disagree on these types of decisions. Knowledgeable expertise needs to be utilized.

      I would rather propose that a professional and science based council be formed to vet these types of proposals.

      As someone that is certainly not knowledgeable enough to make an educated decision, I would think this would be required from a DAO like KLIMA so that people like me could feel comfortable voting on things like this.

        RobXRP fully agree. I wonder if it would perhaps be possible to implement a delegation system for voting similar to what ENS DAO has done? I have no knowledge on these matters and don’t want Klima to be susceptible to third parties taking advantage of the layman like me with hidden agendas in this complex ecosystem. (To be clear: this is not an accusation of anyone at this stage!)

        RobXRP
        100%..... Couldn't agree.... No disrespect but such proposals shouldn't be put to randoms with little or no knowledge of such matters like myself to vote on.

        I'm fully in favour of adding more assets to the treasury. And while I'm not an expert on the except strengths & weaknesses of MCO2 tokens (Sirob seems to raise some good questions), I just wanted to highlight one other point. We currently have about 60m liquidity in the KLIMA/BCT pool and 50m in the BCT/USDC pool. With this proposal we would add KLIMA/MCO2 liquidity - but is MOSS and/or KLIMA planning on creating a pool that would facilitate easy trading of MCO2 to stablecoins/other crypto assets?

        If not, then people looking to trade/sell MCO2 will have to go MCO2 -> KLIMA -> BCT -> USDC. Not only is this hugely inefficient in terms of trading fees, it also means that we will be routing all selling pressure through the BCT/USDC pool which will depress the BCT price, the RFV of KLIMA, and thus in the end the KLIMA price itself.

        I'm not advocating that KLIMA introduces a MCO2/USDC pool, but it would be good to clarify what MOSS plans to develop in terms of future pools to facilitate trading on Polygon.

        As it stands, I would feel better about introducing just the MCO2 bonds for now and only at a later stage KLIMA/MCO2 bonds.

          Moss Right now, Brazil has 40 % of the global forests and Brazilians are allowed to deforest 20% of the lands. Highlighting corrected text.

          Sirob Most of our clients are already asking how they would bond our MCO2 tokens. We are focusing right now on new kinds of assets like nft.moss.earth where moss will allow land ownership to preserve and generate carbon credits in the future. We believe we will be a marketplace where we connect suppliers to demand (like Klima treasury).

          We do several steps to define if we buy from the projects, the most important ones are :

          First - Land ownership - is everything right with land? There are several examples of land possession on reserves and not allowed areas. We visit the projects as well. Use sources like car and notary offices to check land possession from the project owners

          Second - Additionality - using our algorithms and sources like forests at risk and google earth to define if the projects are creating real preservation.

            @Sirob
            Please, find attached the answer of MDD concerning the use of Dinamica EGO. MDD has sent to GP an extensive answer explaining that the project proponent had not used the mentioned software to project deforestation but only to determine the location of said deforestation in the RRL, something which is totally recommended by the software developers. However, they have totally disregarded our explanation, which is very clear and distorted Britaldo’s sayings

            https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mSKL2JoZQ72aShwEeMq0nW_M80mL2rcW/view?usp=sharing